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[Reading Recommendations] How Science Has Destroyed the Foundation of RSS’ Idea of India: by Sahal Muhammed :

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Post time: 15-5-2019 17:54:04
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How Science Has Destroyed the Foundation of RSS’ Idea of India: by Sahal Muhammed :source: https://www.thequint.com/voices/ ... -golwalkar-ideology


“And after all what authority is there to prove our immigrant nature? The shady testimony of Western scholars?”
MS Golwalkar, We or Our Nationhood Defined




“We will ensure the implementation of NRC in the entire country. We will remove every single infiltrator from the country, except Budha, Hindus and Sikhs.”
Amit Shah, April 2019




What do the two statements above have in common? And what do they have to do with the Aryan migration theory? Everything, as we will show.


Because now, for the first time, genetics has given something archaeology and linguistics, for no fault of theirs, could not – a sure-footed answer to Golwalkar’s question.

Ancient DNA Unlocks New Knowledge

These definitive answers have come only now, in a study titled ‘The Genomic Formation of Central and South Asia’, because only now have scientists figured out how to extract DNA from individuals who have been dead for thousands of years and sequence them.




Tony Joseph in his book Early Indians writes that not only did the Aryans migrate, they and three other earlier migrations make up the Indian population as we see it today. He uses the analogy of a pizza to explain this.
By Aryans, we mean the Indo-European language speakers and not a race. A more detailed explanation of the genetics involved and the implications can be found here, here and here.

source: https://www.thequint.com/voices/ ... -golwalkar-ideology

The book mentioned here, Tony Joseph -his book Early Indians : is already uploaded https://www.craxme.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=16353&highlight=tony%2Bjoseph








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Post time: 1-6-2019 23:29:20
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Tony Joseph is a Church fellow .  He has been rebutted.   Tony Joseph is on Twitter. He will easily block anyone who counters him.   
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Image Manikant Kant Image 1-6-2019 11:29 PM
Tony Joseph is a Church fellow .  He has been rebutted.   Tony Joseph is on Twitter. He will easily  ...

SO, give/send/post youir rebuttul here!
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Post time: 3-6-2019 21:14:15
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Image Manikant Kant Image 1-6-2019 11:29 PM
Tony Joseph is a Church fellow .  He has been rebutted.   Tony Joseph is on Twitter. He will easily  ...

It is a trend I have seen countless exhibit. They'd block anyone and everyone who doesn't condone to their thinking and dares to counter them with facts.
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Post time: 4-6-2019 00:44:25
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Edited by ssangra at 4-6-2019 01:14 AM

Its some rather stupid idea to tag NRC to religion in the first place. In India very few people are of  ethnic origins. most are mixed breed with mixing from gene pools of neighbouring areas of central asia, china, tibet , africans,cambodia, sri lanka , nepal , tibet etc ,  invading tribes like moghuls, sakas, persian, portugese, french , british etc. In fact Shahs and Modis come from across the hindukush if u care to research and find their origins. NRC is simply supposed to be a list of citizens of India. Is rather shocking that despite 70+ years and voter ids India does not know who is a citizen and who is not and choses to stupidly use religion for making this register. Religion and politics are SEPERATE things and the faster RSS and politics gets that clear the faster will b the path to develppment otherwise the frogs in the dirty muck will strangle the country
Factually India had a large mobile population which travelled large distances for trade across central and south east and west asia. When kumari kandam was above the water trade extended to australia and new zealand. This explains the similarity between Indian genes and the polynesians, aboriginals maoris etc. Indians would have moved across to as far as danube on the other side. Romania , albania have a sizeable roma population and their languages and customs are very similar to rajasthani gypsies. So what are we talking abt,,,surely tribes interbred and created what is India and population of these countries today.

What I never understand is how the very indians who speak so much abt religion and country take the first opp to send their kids to foreign lands to become citizens there. How can they then speak abt NRC and India in one breath  ?
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Image ssangra Image 4-6-2019 12:44 AM
Its some rather stupid idea to tag NRC to religion in the first place. In India very few people are  ...

The main point here is about RSS. Without this book also, not many think like RSS that we all are Aryans originated in India etc..
RSS want to modify history, archeology, science and whatever comes in the way to convert the attitude of ordinary people to one professed by them.
AND THEY APPEAR TO BE SUCCEEDING!
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Post time: 4-6-2019 18:33:56
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Any connected landmass has people's ethnicity merging over distances. It is very clearly notable in places where people travelled for trade or food. U will find this in Himalayas also. The herdsmen come down in winter and at times intermarry the women from the plains or vice versa. THe same thing has happened gradually over the vast area of asia. U dont call that aryan invasion....or scythian invasion...its a very gradual process of intermingling of tribes and clans. U will find that the gujeratis, sindhis, punjabis , rajputs , himachali , to some extent haryanvis and even maharashtrains follow more of a clan and tribe based system while inner regions have more of brahminical influence. What should matter here and now is the fact that whoever u are and from wherever ur ancestors came, u feel as one with the ethos of India, u work for the place and love it with ur heart. Nothing else should matter.
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Image ssangra Image 4-6-2019 06:33 PM
Any connected landmass has people's ethnicity merging over distances. It is very clearly notable in  ...

It is good idea, and people in fact hv been following it over years in India.
But RSS feels that such a tolerant, liberal, and inclusive nature of Indians makes them non cohesive, and prone to attacks from people who dont follow such lofty ideas like Hindus.
Therefore, RSS wants to unite Indians as Hindus following Sanatan Dharma, and with this purpose they want to make changes to national cultural spheres like history, philosophy, archeology, .. whatever, so that Hindus culturally become a cohesive and disctict entity.
So, it is their arguement that Hindus are Aryans and orginag inhabitants of India. Outsiders who came afterwards shold adopt Hindu way of life and get assimilated.
The way of assimilation which you advocate above is not acceptable to them.
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Post time: 5-6-2019 22:31:07
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What is natural will prevail. Its foolish to think that assimilation is required for an ideology to survive. Hinduism survived for thousands of years and since before RSS was formed. Need I say more
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Post time: 5-6-2019 22:33:31
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I also think life is too short to only stick to one ideology. Its only the agile and adaptible that survive and that applies also to hinduism. The original version allows this as a good process. It has a process, a guideline, a tailoring guideline, templates and checklists. Any limitation is only in the uninformed mind. The informed thought allows an assimilation of all variations without judgements.
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